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joseph ratzinger went into the conclave leading, pope paul vi as well, and people were talking about him. that doesn't seem to historically be true. >> it's cute and gets us off the hook for these wild predictions that don't turn out to be true. but he's absolutely right. if you look at the conclaves of the 20th century, half the times the guy who was identified as the front-runner actually got elected. the problem, anderson, this time, there is no front-runner. >> that's what makes it so interesting this time, i think. >> i think it says more to if you enter pope, if you talk about yourself as pope, if you seem to be politicizing it or politicking yourself, it's seen as a negative. if you do that, it's like the kiss of death, as far as they're concerned. >> yet it's interesting, you see cardinal dolan literally kissing babies and getting a huge amount of attention. is that viewed negatively? >> i don't think so for him, because it seemed like this big personality that even before there was talk of him as pope, that's just who the guy is. he doesn't restrain it. i was at the church y
joseph ratzinger went into the conclave leading, pope paul vi as well, and people were talking about him. that doesn't seem to historically be true. >> it's cute and gets us off the hook for these wild predictions that don't turn out to be true. but he's absolutely right. if you look at the conclaves of the 20th century, half the times the guy who was identified as the front-runner actually got elected. the problem, anderson, this time, there is no front-runner. >> that's what makes...
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when joseph ratzinger was the favorite back then. he got 47 votes on the first ballot of the first day. then the second day on the second ballot, he got about 60 votes, which wasn't good enough for an overall majority even then. but then on the fourth ballot on the second day, well, he got the job with a vast majority. so how is that going to affect the conclave this time? well, certainly it will prolong a conclave that was already expected to belong in the first place, richard. >> we'll enjoy the process and claudio is there to report as this process goes forward. thanks, as always. >>> president obama says authorities are looking into whether private financial information belonging to the first lady was hacked and then later published. it comes as the president prepares to meet with business leaders on cybersecurity. about 100 celebrities and politicians had their personal information posted online on tuesday. all were apparent victims of what's called a docsing attack, posting information on the internet. mr. obama did not say whe
when joseph ratzinger was the favorite back then. he got 47 votes on the first ballot of the first day. then the second day on the second ballot, he got about 60 votes, which wasn't good enough for an overall majority even then. but then on the fourth ballot on the second day, well, he got the job with a vast majority. so how is that going to affect the conclave this time? well, certainly it will prolong a conclave that was already expected to belong in the first place, richard. >> we'll...
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like joseph ratzinger the last time around. he knew all of the cardinals involved. it made it easier for them to coalesce for him for pope. that is not in play at this time and as a result, you know, you have heard it over and over again and you'll hear it more in the coming weeks, at this point there's no front-runner. lot of different men who are being looked at because of their various skills. some of them because of their theological chops, if you will. so, one of the things that i have been doing, we have been watching this video to see who's talking to who and if you can detect any of those secret signals. >> anne if you can stand by for us one second. >>> we're going to quickly hop to castel gandolfo the summer residence where the pope spends his summer. claudio is live there at castel gandolfo. good morning. what are we expecting. what will his life be like in the coming months there? >> well, mara, we're standing here if main square of the ca castel gandolfo. pope benedict xvi will spend about two months until he finally retires inside the vatican walls. la
like joseph ratzinger the last time around. he knew all of the cardinals involved. it made it easier for them to coalesce for him for pope. that is not in play at this time and as a result, you know, you have heard it over and over again and you'll hear it more in the coming weeks, at this point there's no front-runner. lot of different men who are being looked at because of their various skills. some of them because of their theological chops, if you will. so, one of the things that i have...
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this man here, joseph ratzinger, is also an extraordinary linguist. we've become accustomed to it with john paul and with benedict. now it's pretty much expected of him. i think that's right what liz said about him, the father quality of the pope. that's a great advantage to have. >> and as you also look at him -- and he looks like an 85-year-old man, and you realize the stress that must have been on him, certainly in the run-up to this and the decision that he finally decided to make. but just the wear and tear of preparing. we know that yesterday he had something of a down day. there's packing to be done. there are papers to be gone through. there are decisions to be made. and he will be going to castel gandolfo, which is the summer residence of the pope, where he will stay until a more permanent residence is finished. they have been doing renovations on the old monastery on the grounds of the vatican. he's someone, liz, who really -- it's not a job that he can go home at 5:00, and he puts his little time card in, and it ends. this is a man who for
this man here, joseph ratzinger, is also an extraordinary linguist. we've become accustomed to it with john paul and with benedict. now it's pretty much expected of him. i think that's right what liz said about him, the father quality of the pope. that's a great advantage to have. >> and as you also look at him -- and he looks like an 85-year-old man, and you realize the stress that must have been on him, certainly in the run-up to this and the decision that he finally decided to make....
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we are here with a jesuit who studied with the holy father while he was cardinal joseph ratzinger. >> from way back. >> and he knows him well. we're talking about him today. but we want to talk about that wonderful interview with mark rumble on the website at ignatius press. >> you said that pope benedict did not want to be pope. >> he honestly did not. >> what did you want to do? >> he really wanted to be a theologian, and to write and speak and give conference. he loves that. he is a great teacher. and he was made archbishop. he accepted that. he still kept up scholarly work. and then pope john paul ii called him to be head of the time variation of the document of faith. he accepted that too. he wanted to retire twice because he was over the age. and pope john paul ii want you here. and then he died, and he said, i can go back to work on theology. and then he was elected pope. >> it is amazing. he could be elected pope at any age. but he was a winner. what was he showing by this resignation, do you think? it is a remarkable thing. you talked about it earlier too. and the press, he w
we are here with a jesuit who studied with the holy father while he was cardinal joseph ratzinger. >> from way back. >> and he knows him well. we're talking about him today. but we want to talk about that wonderful interview with mark rumble on the website at ignatius press. >> you said that pope benedict did not want to be pope. >> he honestly did not. >> what did you want to do? >> he really wanted to be a theologian, and to write and speak and give...
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this may last longer than it took to pick joseph ratzinger. they may need the time. >> they have to pick the right person, and they have to take into account the sexual abuse that's gone on and make sure the next pope is a better ambassador than perhaps pope benedict was, right? young and vibrant and able to connect with young catholics. >> absolutely. and we know this. we know he's one of the men in the room, right? one of the 115 cardinals. he doesn't have to be. could have to pick somebody to be over 80 years of age and not a cardinal at all. in all reality, it will be one of the younger cardinals who is won of the election fors and some suggest a pope alone may not be enough. when you have a new pope, you have a new vatican council. things that need to be changed are of such dimension, proportion, impact on the church it will take a referendum, and one of the frustrations, satellite communications aside, it's hard to report when all of the guys know what's going on are your honor secrecy under threat of excommunication. >> hard to break a
this may last longer than it took to pick joseph ratzinger. they may need the time. >> they have to pick the right person, and they have to take into account the sexual abuse that's gone on and make sure the next pope is a better ambassador than perhaps pope benedict was, right? young and vibrant and able to connect with young catholics. >> absolutely. and we know this. we know he's one of the men in the room, right? one of the 115 cardinals. he doesn't have to be. could have to...
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so cardinal joseph ratzinger seemed an obvious choice. this time there is no such obvious front runner and no simple, single, overriding issue that's driving the reflection, which is why a lot of us believe this conclave may be a little bit more complex and it may take a little bit longer for the cardinals to reach consensus. >> all right. all right, john, let's come back here to new york for a second. melinda, let me ask you, when you're looking at this from the outside, other than the timing which you know i'm completely obsessed with, that's mainly because i have to figure out when i have to get to rome, but when we're looking at what might be different this time, that's the excitement, right? what are you looking at from the outside? what do you think the possibilities here are? and are we being too excited? >> in terms of the candidates or in terms of what we're going to see going forward? >> because pope benedict has created precedent here by saying i'm resigning, this is the best thing for the church, will that idea, what's best fo
so cardinal joseph ratzinger seemed an obvious choice. this time there is no such obvious front runner and no simple, single, overriding issue that's driving the reflection, which is why a lot of us believe this conclave may be a little bit more complex and it may take a little bit longer for the cardinals to reach consensus. >> all right. all right, john, let's come back here to new york for a second. melinda, let me ask you, when you're looking at this from the outside, other than the...
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but there was no doubt when they went into that conclave that joseph ratzinger was a front-runner. and we don't have that this time, george, do we? >> no, that's right, chris, no papal funeral. no mourning before a papal funeral. an unprecedented historical situation, and not only no front-runner, but no front row at daytona here. this is a much more wide-open process. as we watch cardinal giovanni batista ray say a prayer that concludes the singing of the ancient hymn "come holy spirit." >> and george, you pointed out, this is cardinal ray, who is right now as we see in front of the microphone there. the important part, george, that comes down to when they go to cast their first ballots, explain why the cardinals will try to disguise their handwriting? >> well, there is a bit of confidentiality involved in this. they're asked to write legibly, but in a way that is not clearly their own. this is a rather complicated instruction. they'll individually walk up to that urn in which the ballots are cast. and say, "i call to witness christ the lord, who will be my judge. that he for whom
but there was no doubt when they went into that conclave that joseph ratzinger was a front-runner. and we don't have that this time, george, do we? >> no, that's right, chris, no papal funeral. no mourning before a papal funeral. an unprecedented historical situation, and not only no front-runner, but no front row at daytona here. this is a much more wide-open process. as we watch cardinal giovanni batista ray say a prayer that concludes the singing of the ancient hymn "come holy...
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the former cardinal joseph ratzinger was touched by the charges of child abuse in the catholic church. bill: what happens next on the dates that are aren't? >> reporter: he's leaving february 28, 8:00 p.m. local time in rome. that leaves that very important vacancy and sets up a conclave of cardinals. vatican says by mid-march at the latest. vatican says we should have a new pope by esther sunday march 31. pope benedict will not take part in the conclave. usually a conclave happens after a pope dies. 1415 was the last time a pope quit in office. who is the next pope? he could come from developing areas of the world. it guarantees a lot of drama and a lot of black or white smoke coming from the roof is sistine chapel. march report concerns about the pope's health surfaced this past christmas eve. have it can watchers say he looked frail as he delivered the midnight mass. here he is riding in a motorized cart. the mass is moved up two hours to give the pope time to rest for the christmas day speech. he took the opportunity to urge peace in the middle east during the holidays and was loo
the former cardinal joseph ratzinger was touched by the charges of child abuse in the catholic church. bill: what happens next on the dates that are aren't? >> reporter: he's leaving february 28, 8:00 p.m. local time in rome. that leaves that very important vacancy and sets up a conclave of cardinals. vatican says by mid-march at the latest. vatican says we should have a new pope by esther sunday march 31. pope benedict will not take part in the conclave. usually a conclave happens after...
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>> mara, angelo skoal la will bring continuity to the papacy of joseph ratzinger, pope deny dict xvi. so not much will change while the other two american cardinals who till a few weeks ago didn't stand a chance have suddenly become the front-runners of the so-called reformers, those that want to bring a breath of fesh repair into the vatican walls and to break the italian lock on that roman courier that was so much criticized by cardinals from around the world. scola is believed to have gotten the most votes last night. but the runners up are the american cardinal. we'll know soon enough in the next few days whether we do have the first american cardinal in history. >> what are the cardinals looking for? what direction do they want to take the church in? do we have any indications as to what those things might be? >> well, while the cardinals are divided, they seem to agree on one thing. they want a holy man who is also a businessman because while benedict xvi was appreciated as a great spiritual leader, he was criticized for not having had a strong hand on the administrative side of
>> mara, angelo skoal la will bring continuity to the papacy of joseph ratzinger, pope deny dict xvi. so not much will change while the other two american cardinals who till a few weeks ago didn't stand a chance have suddenly become the front-runners of the so-called reformers, those that want to bring a breath of fesh repair into the vatican walls and to break the italian lock on that roman courier that was so much criticized by cardinals from around the world. scola is believed to have...
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eight years ago cardinal joseph ratzinger was the front-runner. this year, there is no clear concession on a front-runner. they're hoping to energize the church's 1.2 catholics. their favorite appears to be odilo pedro scherer. also angelo scola is a favorite. american cardinals, timothy dolan of new york and cardinal sean patrick o'malley of boston also appear to be in the mix. >>> president obama is expecting to ramp up a charm offensive traveling to capitol hill to attend each party's weekly meetings. the recent steps in reaching out including dining with top senators could go a long way in reaching a budget deal but that they would not have changed the political impact the country is in today. >> i'm welcoming with open arms. i think the president is tremendously sincere. i don't think this is a poe will the call change in tactics. i think he would like to solve the problems of the country and it would be to his benefit and every american's benefit if he did that. it's time to start leading. the way you do that is quit poking your finger in pe
eight years ago cardinal joseph ratzinger was the front-runner. this year, there is no clear concession on a front-runner. they're hoping to energize the church's 1.2 catholics. their favorite appears to be odilo pedro scherer. also angelo scola is a favorite. american cardinals, timothy dolan of new york and cardinal sean patrick o'malley of boston also appear to be in the mix. >>> president obama is expecting to ramp up a charm offensive traveling to capitol hill to attend each...
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i believe it was you who asked me how i felt seeing joseph ratzinger come out on the logia of st. peter's, who i had known at that point for some 17 years, how did i feel about him becoming pope? i said i felt desperately sorry for him because the job is, in one sense, an impossible one, but i was also glad for him because the world was finally going to see the joseph ratzinger i knew, not the cartoon of him that had been spread over the past 20 years. i think that's part of what's reflected in this crowd today. benedict xvi has been the greatest papal preacher in almost 1,400 years, since pope gregory the great. he's a marvelous catechist, a teacher of christian truth. he distills extraordinary learning into simple, elegant phrases that communicate with people all over the world. so there's a somewhat bittersweet sense this may be the last time the world gets to hear this remarkable personality lay out the truth of christian faith as he's been given to understand it, but i'm also having a sense of gratitude that we had eight years to learn from a master teacher, and i think the w
i believe it was you who asked me how i felt seeing joseph ratzinger come out on the logia of st. peter's, who i had known at that point for some 17 years, how did i feel about him becoming pope? i said i felt desperately sorry for him because the job is, in one sense, an impossible one, but i was also glad for him because the world was finally going to see the joseph ratzinger i knew, not the cartoon of him that had been spread over the past 20 years. i think that's part of what's reflected in...
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ratzinger was the last time around. but there are perhaps two or three figures one could say are the next tier down. cardinal angelo shokoal, cardin mark willet, who runs the power for bishops, a deeply spiritual figure and perhaps leonardo sandri, a career vatican official a man that brings the first world and the third world together. we shall see if one of those guys breaks through. >> reporter: indeed and, of course, there may even be a cardinal from the third world, the developing world, who might be elevated. we're going to interview the american cardinal timothy dolan in a few hours from now. we'll have that live on cnn and he's used an awful lot of colorful language to insist he's not the next pope. but his name is constantly cropping up as well. soledad? >> we're already taking bets on who the next successor will be, i'm not surprised about that, guys, thank you. pope benedict xvi will be staying at the picturesque castel gandolfo, southeast of rome. it's a small castle thtle and b anderson is there for us now.
ratzinger was the last time around. but there are perhaps two or three figures one could say are the next tier down. cardinal angelo shokoal, cardin mark willet, who runs the power for bishops, a deeply spiritual figure and perhaps leonardo sandri, a career vatican official a man that brings the first world and the third world together. we shall see if one of those guys breaks through. >> reporter: indeed and, of course, there may even be a cardinal from the third world, the developing...
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. >> reporter: as a cardinal, joseph ratzinger was known as john paul ii's enforcer of religious doctrine. he did not like answering questions. here's abc's brian ross asking him about a sexual abuse case in 2002. >> reporter: the question was -- >> come to me when the moment is given. but not yet. >> reporter: in his almost eight-year-olds as pope, he would sometimes play the piano. he always wore his prada-style red shoes. but his passion was preaching the gospel. he's never enjoyed being an administrator and he paid a price for that. his papacy will be remembered for its scandals. those endless sexual abuse coverups that cost more than $3 billion to settle. a string of financial scandals. benedict tried and failed to clean up corruption. and the notorious vatileaks scandal, with daily exposes in italian newspapers, a vatican back-stabbing in intrigue. he may have been the first pope to tweet, but as the leader, he tried to hold back the forces of modernity, refusing to expand the role of women. now, though, he is accepting the reality of the modern world. and the catholic church enters
. >> reporter: as a cardinal, joseph ratzinger was known as john paul ii's enforcer of religious doctrine. he did not like answering questions. here's abc's brian ross asking him about a sexual abuse case in 2002. >> reporter: the question was -- >> come to me when the moment is given. but not yet. >> reporter: in his almost eight-year-olds as pope, he would sometimes play the piano. he always wore his prada-style red shoes. but his passion was preaching the gospel. he's...
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in 2005, there was a clear front-runner in cardinal joseph ratzinger, the man who had been john paul's right hand. this time, what you have is a much more wide open field and in fact, in one of the last press briefings we got, cardinal frances george of chicago said that right now, the list seems to be coming longer rather than shorter of potential popes. i think their corn concern is they don't want to have a protractive conclave once they go into the sistine chapel, so they want to give themselves as much time as they can to do the political heavy lifting so they don't end up stalled once they're behind those closed doors. >> thanks so much. vatican analyst joining us from roechl. >>> a family coming to grips with a tragic loss. we're going to have an exclusive interview with reeva steenkamp's uncle and cousin. >> they forgive the blade runner. medicated pain relief you store in the freezer. brrr...see ya boys. [ male announcer ] bengay zero degrees. freeze and move on. [ male announcer ] bengay zero degrees. we replaced people with a machine.r, what? customers didn't like it. so why
in 2005, there was a clear front-runner in cardinal joseph ratzinger, the man who had been john paul's right hand. this time, what you have is a much more wide open field and in fact, in one of the last press briefings we got, cardinal frances george of chicago said that right now, the list seems to be coming longer rather than shorter of potential popes. i think their corn concern is they don't want to have a protractive conclave once they go into the sistine chapel, so they want to give...
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ratzinger, who became benedict xvi. this time 15 have been through the process. they do know one other better than last time which makes this process more complicated. not only do they know one another quite well but a larger group of guys who are veterans who feel they know the lay of the land and inclined to be active players in the process. >> let's listen in now. next cardinal angelo scola, from milan, archbishop of milan. let's listen to him. [ speaking latin ] >> a field where there is no favorite, i have been saying to you all week, john, and you followed, i'm lonely as a reporter on the story because it's so hard to get information. what are the hard facts that make angelo scola someone who must be considered at the top or near the top of the list who could be pope? >> i think the first is those of us with background conversations of cardinals over last two weeks constantly hear his name. further i think there's universal agreement among people who sort of handicap this feel for a living but this hasn't taken sh
ratzinger, who became benedict xvi. this time 15 have been through the process. they do know one other better than last time which makes this process more complicated. not only do they know one another quite well but a larger group of guys who are veterans who feel they know the lay of the land and inclined to be active players in the process. >> let's listen in now. next cardinal angelo scola, from milan, archbishop of milan. let's listen to him. [ speaking latin ] >> a field where...
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ratzinger, now pope benedict xvi emeritus. as the perfect compromise candidate, 76 years old, but that he could be a unifier, your thoughts? >> well, i mean cardinal b bergoglio was a runner up in 2005. he comes from a society of jesus, a religious order respected not only for its religious accomplishment but social activism. humble man. when he was installed as the cardinal in beau nas air ris, he was not going to take the chauffeured limousine but the bus to work. if you wanted to talk to the cardinal you got on that bus and could have an audience. >> cooks his own meals. >> stays in his own simple apartment. >> the problem, chris, is that on the heels of a pope who resigned citing age and exhaustion, i think it is going to be difficult for some of these 115 cardinals to see a 76-year-old man who has had his own struggles with fatigue, as the logical successor. >> and there is a little bit of speculation about his health, fair point. again, as we're thinking about if the big names don't deliver early on and they have to look
ratzinger, now pope benedict xvi emeritus. as the perfect compromise candidate, 76 years old, but that he could be a unifier, your thoughts? >> well, i mean cardinal b bergoglio was a runner up in 2005. he comes from a society of jesus, a religious order respected not only for its religious accomplishment but social activism. humble man. when he was installed as the cardinal in beau nas air ris, he was not going to take the chauffeured limousine but the bus to work. if you wanted to talk...
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cardinal joseph ratzinger was 78 when he was chosen in 2005. but he wasn't the oldest pope. in the 12th and 13th centuries, two donned their robes at the age of 85. the youngest, pope john xii was a youthful 18 when he assumed the papacy. he had help of his father who fixed the election of his only son before his death. only one man was not a cardinal first. he was named pope urban vi back in 1378. the italians have clearly had the home field advantage, dominating it through the centuries. the conclave of 1978, produced the closest thing to a surprise we had in decades, in john paul ii, the first nonitalian in 500 years. more often than not, the outcome is predictable. without a clear front-runner going in this time, this conclave could be a cliff-hanger. that it for us from rome. "early start" begins now. >>> pope watch at the sistine chapel. a live picture right here, the world waiting for the signal with cardinals voting right now on a new pope. >>> a dramatic finish to an intense manhunt. police storm a motel room to catch a suspected killer. >>> sinkhole. >> this is cra
cardinal joseph ratzinger was 78 when he was chosen in 2005. but he wasn't the oldest pope. in the 12th and 13th centuries, two donned their robes at the age of 85. the youngest, pope john xii was a youthful 18 when he assumed the papacy. he had help of his father who fixed the election of his only son before his death. only one man was not a cardinal first. he was named pope urban vi back in 1378. the italians have clearly had the home field advantage, dominating it through the centuries. the...
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. >> reporter: now, born joseph ratzinger the german became pope in april 2005 when the cardinals elected him to succeed pope john paul ii. this decision means that the catholic church will be without a pope for a period of time until the cardinals can select a new successor. live in san francisco, cate caugiran, kpix 5. >>> a manhunt continues in southern california for the ex- lapd officer they say has already killed three people. a reported sighting in northridge was a false alarm. it's now been eight days since police say christopher dorner killed his first two victims. lapd was on high alert for the grammys. los angeles officials announced a $1 million reward and it cops as the search for the former officer winds down in the mountains east of l.a. meantime, l.a.'s police chief has reopened an investigation into the circumstances of dorner's firing. >> if he was to give himself up, we would be glad to listen to what he has to say. >> dorner claims he was fired for reporting a fellow officer for excessive force. the last clue investigators have of dorner's whereabouts was thursday when
. >> reporter: now, born joseph ratzinger the german became pope in april 2005 when the cardinals elected him to succeed pope john paul ii. this decision means that the catholic church will be without a pope for a period of time until the cardinals can select a new successor. live in san francisco, cate caugiran, kpix 5. >>> a manhunt continues in southern california for the ex- lapd officer they say has already killed three people. a reported sighting in northridge was a false...
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he lost to then cardinal joseph ratzinger who became benedict the xvith. this time around, well, did he a little better. pope francis is the first non-you're mean leader of the church in more than 1200 years according to vatican records. back in are argentina the then cardinal was a man who lived simply. i mentioned he cooked his own meals and read the bus to work. he didn't live in a fancy church mansion that was available. he slept downtown where a small stove kept him warm. he didn't own a car. difficult to imagine how much this world is about to change. team fox coverage continues. trace gallagher live tonight. >> because cardinal came in second during the last conclave, many theological historians thought he would be a major role player during this one but not as the king, rather as the king maker. instead, we have a pope unlike any other. [cheers] >> his parishioners knew him as jorge pope francis. the robes and pageantry presented to a prince of the church known for his simplicity in humble manner his constant journey to uphold the teachings of chri
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cardinal joseph ratzinger was elected in the fastest conclave. it came in day two of the conclave. back in 2005, black smoke came in at 6:52 and white smoke came in about six hours later at 12:50 p.m. joining me is george. we've had no pope. at what point is the pivot point for the voting that will take place behind the scenes today, the narrowing down, at least, of the candidates? >> they are certainly going to be narrowing down, thomas. that may have in fact began already. the first vote, as you know last night, is full of complementary votes that don't really give you an indication, that gives the cardinals an indication of where the lay of the land lies. but they ought to have some reasonable idea now after this morning two ballots who has real traction, if anyone, and one can imagine after lunch and the typical italian reposo who may not have taken a nap this afternoon that some of the coalitions are being readjusted and cardinals are thinking now as they reenter the sistine chapel. >> so you talk about those adjustments. if the conclave were to end quickly, after this next vo
cardinal joseph ratzinger was elected in the fastest conclave. it came in day two of the conclave. back in 2005, black smoke came in at 6:52 and white smoke came in about six hours later at 12:50 p.m. joining me is george. we've had no pope. at what point is the pivot point for the voting that will take place behind the scenes today, the narrowing down, at least, of the candidates? >> they are certainly going to be narrowing down, thomas. that may have in fact began already. the first...
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pope benedict xvi was born in 1927 as joseph ratzinger. he served in the army but deserted and was eventually captured by americans and then released. his decision sets the stage for a new pope to be elected before the end of march. the san francisco archdiocese just opened about a minute ago. we are hoping to speak to someone from there and get reaction on this event. >> all right. tara, you can get more information about the surprise resignation announcement about the pope by going to ktvu.com. click on the pope resigns tab. >>> 8:01. police in san mateo, warning residents about an increase in residential burglaries. the police say several burglaries have been reported in the fiesta gardens and shoreview neighborhoods of san mateo in recent weeks. most of them have been happening during the daytime when people are at work. the thieves usually 0 knock on the -- knock on the door first to find out if anyone is home. police are telling residents lock all of your windows and the doors. >>> a crash in concord left one man with life-threatenin
pope benedict xvi was born in 1927 as joseph ratzinger. he served in the army but deserted and was eventually captured by americans and then released. his decision sets the stage for a new pope to be elected before the end of march. the san francisco archdiocese just opened about a minute ago. we are hoping to speak to someone from there and get reaction on this event. >> all right. tara, you can get more information about the surprise resignation announcement about the pope by going to...
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ratzinger. 50 of the cardinals this time had taken place last time. if you add things up, that's how you take a man who was seen a long shot to, in effect, a consensus candidate elected quite rapidly in just five ballots. >> great article. the path to papacy. not him, not him, therefore, him. can you tell us what's happening right now? >> sure. well, this is the pope moving -- again, you see him with the censor, the incense, which symbolizes the prayers of the community being lifted to god with the incense. he moved around the altar using the censor, the incense. you now see him moving towards the area where he will lead the liturgy in the central piazza, st. peter's square. we will see the two key symbols bestowed, the pallium which you see there, the pallium made out of wool and it will be bestowed over the shoulders of the pope. again, the symbolism there is it represents the pope as shepherd leading this flock of the church. then after that he will receive his ring, the fisherman's ring which father ed told us a moment ago in this case is made not
ratzinger. 50 of the cardinals this time had taken place last time. if you add things up, that's how you take a man who was seen a long shot to, in effect, a consensus candidate elected quite rapidly in just five ballots. >> great article. the path to papacy. not him, not him, therefore, him. can you tell us what's happening right now? >> sure. well, this is the pope moving -- again, you see him with the censor, the incense, which symbolizes the prayers of the community being lifted...
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ratzinger of germany received 84 votes and he needed 77. jorge mario bergoglio with four votes. when her sister dumped me. oh dad, you remember my friend alex? yeah. the one that had the work done... [ male announcer ] sometimes being too transparent can be a bad thing. this looks good! [ male announcer ] but not with the oscar mayer deli fresh clear pack. it's what you see is what you get food. [ male announcer ] all stations come over tomayer mithis is for real this time. step seven point two one two. verify and lock. command is locked. five seconds. three, two, one. standing by for capture. the most innovative software on the planet... dragon is captured. is connecting today's leading companies to places beyond it. siemens. answers. that's not much, you think. except it's 2% every year. go to e-trade and find out how much our advice and guidance costs. spoiler alert: it's low. it's guidance on your terms, not ours. e-trade. less for us. more for you. because all these whole grains aren't healthy unless you actually eat them ♪ multigrai
ratzinger of germany received 84 votes and he needed 77. jorge mario bergoglio with four votes. when her sister dumped me. oh dad, you remember my friend alex? yeah. the one that had the work done... [ male announcer ] sometimes being too transparent can be a bad thing. this looks good! [ male announcer ] but not with the oscar mayer deli fresh clear pack. it's what you see is what you get food. [ male announcer ] all stations come over tomayer mithis is for real this time. step seven point two...
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and cardinal joseph ratzinger and pope benedict xvi. >> bret: it was a surprise. coac.pope benedict xvi will resn february 28. that will start a conclave to make new pope in rome sometime before easter. here is the letter from pope benedict said. the resignation letter. in today's world, stout so many rapid changes and shaken by questions of deep relevance of the life of faith in order to govern the bark of st. peter and proclaim the gospel, strength of mind and body are necessary. strength in the last few months deteriorated in me to the extent i have had to recognize my incapacity to adequately fulfill the ministry entrusted to me. for this reason, and well aware of the seriousness of this act, with full freedom i declare i renounce the ministry of bishop of rome. successor of st. peter and entrusted to me by the cardinals on 19 april, 2005. amazing. welcome in a special panel to talk about the resignation. kathryn lopez with national review online. she talked to the pope last fall. david kerr is the correspondent with ewtn, global catholic media network in the
and cardinal joseph ratzinger and pope benedict xvi. >> bret: it was a surprise. coac.pope benedict xvi will resn february 28. that will start a conclave to make new pope in rome sometime before easter. here is the letter from pope benedict said. the resignation letter. in today's world, stout so many rapid changes and shaken by questions of deep relevance of the life of faith in order to govern the bark of st. peter and proclaim the gospel, strength of mind and body are necessary....
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ratzinger and that may indicate a certain amount of change. i just want to caution -- i think a lot of americans think -- when they think of reform and change they think we're going to have women priests. that was not a realistic expectation given the cardinals who were in there. i think what they mean by reform touched other issues, partly reorganization of the curia, its relationships with local bishops and, again, are we going to focus a little bitless maybe on the traditional latin mass and a little bit more on caring for the poor. >> ifill: so this is not a pope or a papacy we're going to see any kind of change when it comes to things like abortion or -- >> of course not. >> ifill: gay marriage. >> of course not. >> ifill: or adoption or any social issues that get us so worked up, especially in the united states? >> no, and these are not issues in the latin american church. when 50% of your people are living below the poverty line, shame on you if you're worried about other issues like that. you've got to be very hand on worried about fee
ratzinger and that may indicate a certain amount of change. i just want to caution -- i think a lot of americans think -- when they think of reform and change they think we're going to have women priests. that was not a realistic expectation given the cardinals who were in there. i think what they mean by reform touched other issues, partly reorganization of the curia, its relationships with local bishops and, again, are we going to focus a little bitless maybe on the traditional latin mass and...
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so i think a lot of people anticipate it's not going to be like 2005 when joseph ratzinger was elected on the fourth ballot after a day and a half. this is going to take a couple of days. i was struck by something else cardinal dolan said yesterday in that horrible media scrum. he said a week ago i wouldn't have told you we were ready. now he says he feels that they are ready to make this decision. >> we forget that so many of these cardinals were appointed by pope benedict so they really don't necessarily know each other. they're from all around the world. so they have had this time together to get to know each other, to have some conversations, and of course back home what everyone is talking about, father baron, is could there be an american pope. could there be a north american pope. the way one vatican insider put it to me yesterday was i think we've gone from a very long shot to a long shot. is that about right? >> the single most interesting thing about this period, two weeks ago i was interviewed and said any chance for an american pope. i said slim to none. i love timothy dola
so i think a lot of people anticipate it's not going to be like 2005 when joseph ratzinger was elected on the fourth ballot after a day and a half. this is going to take a couple of days. i was struck by something else cardinal dolan said yesterday in that horrible media scrum. he said a week ago i wouldn't have told you we were ready. now he says he feels that they are ready to make this decision. >> we forget that so many of these cardinals were appointed by pope benedict so they really...
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ratzinger who became pope benedict. having said that, his age, 76, made a lot of people disqualify him. because one of the reasons obviously that pope benedict stepped down was because of his age. he said he didn't have the energy anymore. and so i think there was a sort of understanding among a lot of people that maybe the cardinals of the conclave would go for someone who was younger and seemed, perhaps, as more vital. having said that, remember, the two things that i think people were looking for most were someone who could evangelize and someone who could clean up the bureaucracy of the vatican. certainly on the first one we've talked about his great evangeliization skills. thomas reese was right. we've seen growth in the church in africa and latin america. there's also competition from protestant evangiliization. it's going to be interesting to see what this man who lives so simply does inside the vatican. certainly father or george could speak better to this than i could. but what will happen now inside the walls
ratzinger who became pope benedict. having said that, his age, 76, made a lot of people disqualify him. because one of the reasons obviously that pope benedict stepped down was because of his age. he said he didn't have the energy anymore. and so i think there was a sort of understanding among a lot of people that maybe the cardinals of the conclave would go for someone who was younger and seemed, perhaps, as more vital. having said that, remember, the two things that i think people were...
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one was the american cardinal and joseph ratzinger you may have heard of who became benedict xvi. this time you have 50 conclave veterans in the sistine chapel, and i think therefore will be more inclined to think they ought to have say in what's happening. >> and i believe some 67 who have been elevated to cardinal by benedict xvi. >> that's right. all 115 were appointed by john paul or benedict. >> so as catholics around the world look to the possible direction the church might take, and in america we know there's a big wing of the roman catholics who is looking for a more progressive, more modern catholic church, that addresses the real issues of living in today's 21st century world, other parts of the word are much more traditional, much more conservative model. how do you see it going forward and to you think there will be an american pope for the first time? >> an american pope is a long shot, but for the first time it's thinkable. in the old idea you couldn't have a super power pope because america is too powerful and if you put that guy in, half the world will think vatica
one was the american cardinal and joseph ratzinger you may have heard of who became benedict xvi. this time you have 50 conclave veterans in the sistine chapel, and i think therefore will be more inclined to think they ought to have say in what's happening. >> and i believe some 67 who have been elevated to cardinal by benedict xvi. >> that's right. all 115 were appointed by john paul or benedict. >> so as catholics around the world look to the possible direction the church...
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born joseph ratzinger, he was an academic, planned to retire and write books. some criticize him as a cardinal for becoming too strict. for which he apologized. >> i express my deep sorrow to the innocent victims of this inspeakable crimes. >> reporter: during his eight years as pope, he has taken on major issues, speaking of environmental climate change, putting solar panels on the vatican. he will be pope until exactly 7:00 pm on the 28th of this month. he will eventually move into a residence in the vatican. the vatican is saying they hope to elect a new pope by the end of march before easter. according to church rules, this pope will not be able to vote for his successor because he is over the age of 80. natalie? >> michelle kosinski, following the breaking news for us. thank you. >>> los angeles police department is hoping that a $1 million reward will lead to new clues in the search for former cop christopher dorner, who is suspected of killing a police officer and a couple engaged to be married. in surveillance video obtained by nbc news, sources say dor
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well, then came joseph ratzinger, a german, but then at that point they could choose to a non-italian being pope. if our catholics, and especially catholics in rome and in italy, are they ready for a noneuropean? yes, i think so. they have come to understand that what really matters is the passion, the stamina, the strength, and the message that a pope sends out and how he delivers it. they embrace that and understand that the world is now a worldwide church. that the catholic church is now a worldwide church. yes, i think there are ready. they're not -- i don't think they are particularly too bothered about the fact that the next pope will be italian. they just want to know who is next because that's always a massive event here in rome. when the white smoke comes out of the sistine chapel, people will be charging here down the big street from rome into the vatican because everyone wantston who their new pope is. that's exciting. >> george, you talk about the challenges that the first has faced. is that going to be part of this conversation, the scandals here, and else where in the wo
well, then came joseph ratzinger, a german, but then at that point they could choose to a non-italian being pope. if our catholics, and especially catholics in rome and in italy, are they ready for a noneuropean? yes, i think so. they have come to understand that what really matters is the passion, the stamina, the strength, and the message that a pope sends out and how he delivers it. they embrace that and understand that the world is now a worldwide church. that the catholic church is now a...
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behind those walls, behind those gaets now, pope emeritus, the former joseph ratzinger and we have the seat is vacant. the seat of peter is now vacant. father bartuni krc, your feelin? >> the feelings i've had all day. i'm feeming more. bitt bittersweet. nice to see how the decision of the pope is taken by the catholic faithful throughout the world. following what he believes to be the good for the church and many of us have come to really love him and respect him. and so, you really feel it. i mean, at this moment. well, there you go. at the same time, when you see the -- when you see the swiss guards kind of ending their duty for the time being, i can't help but thinking of the whole history of the papacy. they're a personal guard of the pope because the pope is attacked before. the vatican has been attacked in the 20 centuries of church. even though there's surprises in the past, the schurch is still here and god is still working through the church and so i feel a lot of hope, as well. kind of excitement about what might -- what the next couple of weeks might bring. >> we see the th
behind those walls, behind those gaets now, pope emeritus, the former joseph ratzinger and we have the seat is vacant. the seat of peter is now vacant. father bartuni krc, your feelin? >> the feelings i've had all day. i'm feeming more. bitt bittersweet. nice to see how the decision of the pope is taken by the catholic faithful throughout the world. following what he believes to be the good for the church and many of us have come to really love him and respect him. and so, you really feel...
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when john paul died, we knew that joseph ratzinger who became pope benedict xvi, he was a very powerful man in the vatican the pope's enforcer in some ways. we all knew his name. we don't really know the names of any of these people now. but, so it's going to be a much more diverse, i think, selection process. >> what are the chances that we'll see a pope from central america or africa? >> it will tough to do that. majority of the catholics are in the southern hemisphere. growing church in africa and latin america. it would make a lot of sense to do that. i think it would be pretty hard to wrestle the power away from europe especially the italians. >> all right, it will be a really interesting couple of weeks. cokie, thank you so much. >>> elizabeth thanks. now to the other big headlines. the extreme weather slamming the country. tornadoes tearing across the country. sam is tracking it all. two blizzards. a real round of severe storms. we'll start with the pictures out of minnesota. it was the sunday blizzard. not the friday one. the one in the middle of country that put anywhere from 1
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that's a great act of service to the church, and it's a great expression of the character of joseph ratzinger. >> kathy, let me go to you on this. what was your first reaction when you heard about this today? were you surprised? there's a lot of rumors around new york, by the way, that cardinal egan had been working on this for awhile and it had been kept silent but not entirely. were you shocked at this? what was your first reaction? >> absolutely shocked. thought it was a farce. had to look it up five times to see it was real. it's sad. really sad. i love this pope. there's so much love for this pope. and even though he's still going to be with us, it's really like a mourning of him, i think. some of us are experiencing. but i like what you said about humility. when we look at john paul ii's end, many people came away with his public suffering and death as thinking he's teaching us how to die. and now look at this pope. he's teaching us how to be humble. i think it's a beautiful lesson from pope benedict. >> george, it's a complicated question. but in a word as briefly as you can, how do yo
that's a great act of service to the church, and it's a great expression of the character of joseph ratzinger. >> kathy, let me go to you on this. what was your first reaction when you heard about this today? were you surprised? there's a lot of rumors around new york, by the way, that cardinal egan had been working on this for awhile and it had been kept silent but not entirely. were you shocked at this? what was your first reaction? >> absolutely shocked. thought it was a farce....
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ratzinger, and over the function of the vatican, he did such a masterful job that many people believed it propelled him to election as benedict xvi, there won't be those massive public events ahead of the conclave, the public performance during that period becomes much less important than the behind the scenes conversation that will go on as the cardinals of the world begin to gather here in rome. >> there will be speculation about who the current pope favors to be his success sore i imagine. >> benedict made it clear when he he talked about papal resignation in the past, he does not believe it would be appropriate, but people will try to read the tea leaves in terms of what benedict is thinking about this process may be. it should be said, one of the questions over the years, about a resigned pope, precisely this, the potential in the church, where one faction to the church loyal to the new pope and one faction loyal to the old pope, so the extent to which once the successor is named, how benedict can both symbolically and substantively see the passing of the torch, that he is no long
ratzinger, and over the function of the vatican, he did such a masterful job that many people believed it propelled him to election as benedict xvi, there won't be those massive public events ahead of the conclave, the public performance during that period becomes much less important than the behind the scenes conversation that will go on as the cardinals of the world begin to gather here in rome. >> there will be speculation about who the current pope favors to be his success sore i...
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ratzinger became pope benedict xvi. he got what, 40, at least these are the reports, he got about 40 of the votes among the 115 cardinals but they thought maybe this time his name wasn't floated around that much because he is 76 years old and given the fact that pope benedict stepped down citing his own age were you surprised that they selected someone 76? >> yeah. i have to confess i was a little bit surprised by that. and yet in looking into the man's eyes as he appeared and his face as he appeared there is a kindly, grandfatherly quality to him that maybe will speak and attract those of us who are much younger and kind of in need of wisdom and guidance. so yes surprised disappointed no. >> what will happen? at some point he will come to the united states. your school, the catholic university of america i'm sure he will come there. they usually make some sort of appearance there, right? >> two popes have, pope john paul ii and pope benedict of course and you were there for his appearance that time back in 2008. whethe
ratzinger became pope benedict xvi. he got what, 40, at least these are the reports, he got about 40 of the votes among the 115 cardinals but they thought maybe this time his name wasn't floated around that much because he is 76 years old and given the fact that pope benedict stepped down citing his own age were you surprised that they selected someone 76? >> yeah. i have to confess i was a little bit surprised by that. and yet in looking into the man's eyes as he appeared and his face as...
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ratzinger, and that's christophe shone born of i vienna. he's el quantity, he's very intelligence, he's written many books. he speaks many languages, and he would be a person that some would say looks like a young john paul or ii. rick: robert moynihan inside the vatican magazine editor. thank you so much for your insights today. we appreciate your time. father jonathan morris is a fox news contributor, he joins us on the phone. always nice to talk to you, father morris, and as we watch the beginning of this conclave, your thoughts today? >> well, rick, and jenna lee, it's good to be talking with you. a lot of mixed emotions. i guess the biggest emotion for me was being with cardinal dolan this morning, very early in the morning, 6:45 as he's packing his bag and getting ready to leave. and, you know, just knowing that without, certainly, him looking for amazingly in the last week or two the winds have definitely been pushing if in the direction of -- in the direction of the only of an american candidate as pope. and it was moving just to wa
ratzinger, and that's christophe shone born of i vienna. he's el quantity, he's very intelligence, he's written many books. he speaks many languages, and he would be a person that some would say looks like a young john paul or ii. rick: robert moynihan inside the vatican magazine editor. thank you so much for your insights today. we appreciate your time. father jonathan morris is a fox news contributor, he joins us on the phone. always nice to talk to you, father morris, and as we watch the...
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so they elected the intellectual architect of john paul's papacy, cardinal joseph ratzinger. this time i don't think there is a simple logic. there is a lot on the table, a pope with global vision, a pope who can eadvantage liva eadvant evangelize. when you have a more xcomplicatd logic going in, that makes it more complicated. >> if they become seen as an outside and idea of old thinking, instead of the all-stars they have been respected as in the past and the foreign cardinals come in and say we don't like what's happening here, things need to change, that would be unusual, wouldn't it? >> well, in one sense it wouldn't that be unusual, chris, complaining about the vatican is the favorite indoor sport of the catholic church. everyone likes to get in on the act. on the other hand, i think what is unusual this time is the complaints aren't just coming from the grassroots. they're coming from the princes of the church. and, again, it is not about doctrine, not about substance, it is about governments, it is about how the place is run. what we have seen over the last eight year
so they elected the intellectual architect of john paul's papacy, cardinal joseph ratzinger. this time i don't think there is a simple logic. there is a lot on the table, a pope with global vision, a pope who can eadvantage liva eadvant evangelize. when you have a more xcomplicatd logic going in, that makes it more complicated. >> if they become seen as an outside and idea of old thinking, instead of the all-stars they have been respected as in the past and the foreign cardinals come in...
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you know, with the last election, we all knew joseph ratzinger and so did they, but there's nobody like that now, and with the scandals that are there, the first thing they have to do is make absolutely sure in every way that whomever they pick is spotless. >> exactly. >> and they don't know how to do that. they don't know how. i mean what are they going to do, call the head of the knights of columbus? they don't know how to do it. >> to me it's one of the most crucial moments in the church's history right now if you look at what happened with this huge scandal with pedophiles in the church. it's gone through every diocese and you're stacked with catholics. i'm catholic, i was an altar boy. i went to catholic university. all of that. i think we're at that moment in time where they have to make a decision, actually similar to the republican party in the same exact thing, they could either retrench and become a minority institution or they can expand. youth are leaving the church. minorities in the developed world are leaving church. there's no role -- women don't feel a real role in the
you know, with the last election, we all knew joseph ratzinger and so did they, but there's nobody like that now, and with the scandals that are there, the first thing they have to do is make absolutely sure in every way that whomever they pick is spotless. >> exactly. >> and they don't know how to do that. they don't know how. i mean what are they going to do, call the head of the knights of columbus? they don't know how to do it. >> to me it's one of the most crucial moments...
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ratzinger, then the dean of cardinals, pope benedict. >> chris cuomo for us, the perfect person to talk about that is cardinal edward egan. former archbishop of new york and knows timothy dolan quite well. >> great to be with you, soledad. thank you for the invitation. >> my pleasure. we were hearing chris cuomo talk about the length of time this could take. and he was suggesting this conclave could be longer than the last. part of the reason no specific front-runner that everybody is pointing to. sounds very much like campaigning for office. for those of us who have never spent any time in rome or at the vatican, we see it as a campaign. do you agree with what he's saying? >> i always agree with chris. and i agree with all of the cuomos. i might mention that when i became a cardinal, chris' mother came to me, so i will certainly never contradict a cuomo. i would say this. there is not so much a front-runner or nonfront-runner, simply a question of identifying someone who fulfills the characteristics we are all looking for. >> which is what? what are the top five things that a pope shou
ratzinger, then the dean of cardinals, pope benedict. >> chris cuomo for us, the perfect person to talk about that is cardinal edward egan. former archbishop of new york and knows timothy dolan quite well. >> great to be with you, soledad. thank you for the invitation. >> my pleasure. we were hearing chris cuomo talk about the length of time this could take. and he was suggesting this conclave could be longer than the last. part of the reason no specific front-runner that...
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cardinal ratzinger was the head of the inquisition office, they don't call it that anymore but that's what it was. he had charles removed from his position at catholic university. hans is probably the most read. you could go on, matthew fox was into spiritual, new creations kind of thing. lee -- leonardo was the best theologian. >> john: it is like the bush administration. those who are loyal are the ones who get promoted. >> one of the bad things about it is people claim that somehow in their formulations, they have possessed the truth. and they get themselves convinced of that. they can't incorporate into their thinking. any idea that it is different from their conception of truth. that's called idolatry. you can't get away from it. they're so busy trying to protect their reputation of the church they've almost destroyed it. they've not been honest about the child molestation. and they haven't been honest yet. you can't have cardinal law being translated to a promotion in the vatican -- >> john: after what happened. >> and think you're trying to go into that and clean it up. this ma
cardinal ratzinger was the head of the inquisition office, they don't call it that anymore but that's what it was. he had charles removed from his position at catholic university. hans is probably the most read. you could go on, matthew fox was into spiritual, new creations kind of thing. lee -- leonardo was the best theologian. >> john: it is like the bush administration. those who are loyal are the ones who get promoted. >> one of the bad things about it is people claim that...